From: Timothy N. Stevenson
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:20 AM
To: Phil Heitzenroeder
Cc: Bob Simmons; Mike Williams
Subject: Re: CALC-13-03-01 Ready for Final Review
Phil
The
text in 33 allows the checker to use their own judgement (graded approach). For
instance, if the checker looks at the assumptions for a problem and looks at
the inputs to ANSYS for a calc and the properties look right, the checker (who
presumably knows ANSYS well enough) can conclude that the calc is OK or similar
to the way they would do it. Methods could include back of the envelope,
comparison to similar calc on something else, detailed review of inputs and
outputs, etc... Performing the calc again would be a case like Titus and
Willard just went through to resolve errors etc.
Does
this help?
TIm
ENG-033
A
Cognizant Individual 1. Develops
calculation in accordance with the format described in
attachment 1 or project equivalent.
For software calculations
using code or software applications,
Cog shall so document the
input and code used that a competent
reviewer could determine
validity of the calculation.
Responsible Line
Manager
2. Appoints a qualified checker or
reviewer for the calculation.
Checker 3. Reviews the calculation
using the minimum requirements of
attachment 2. It is the
responsibility of the checker to use
methods that will substantiate to
his/her professional
satisfaction that the calculation is
correct.
4. Resolves concerns with developer
of calculation and signs
calculation sheet or project
equivalent.
On
Feb 11, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Michael Williams wrote:
Phil,
I believe the checker must conclude that, to the best of his professional
judgement, the calculation is correct. Otherwise, the checking isn't
meaningful.
Mike
On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Phil Heitzenroeder wrote:
Mike & Tim,
Just to get this straight in my mind as we enter an extended phase of
checking and signing off, for something like this particular case- a
force influence matrix - how can someone review this and sign off that
it's correct without essentially re-doing the calculation? On the
practical level, one can check if the coil configuration parameters are
correct, but to check the influence coefficients really takes re-doing
the calculation. What concerns me is that the checker has to sign below
a line which states:
"I have reviewed this calculation and, to my professional satisfaction,
it is properly performed and correct."
It's hard to say unequivocally "properly performed and correct" for
something like this or ANSYS calculations without re-doing it. It
may
be more reasonable for this sentence to be changed to read:
I have reviewed this calculation and, to my professional satisfaction,
it is properly performed. Also, perhaps we should leave a space for
comments, so the checker can add things like "I checked input values"
or "I discussed details with XXX and am satisfied with the methods
used". This would add credibility to the process.
What do you think?
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Simmons
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:14 PM
To: Ronald E. Hatcher; Peter Titus; Phil Heitzenroeder
Subject: CALC-13-03-01 Ready for Final Review
Ron, Pete, and Phil:
Attached for your review and comment before we PDF and get signed.
Sorry I did not send around sooner.
BobS
<NSTXU-CALC-13-003-01.doc>
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